I remember being raised to avoid Gnostic heresies, who taught that the material world was nothing but an evil prison for the spiritual world. It now seems that now, people are leaning to an extreme anti-gnosticism, where they seem to place absolutely no value in a living, active spirit world, even if they claim to believe current work of the Holy Spirit.
Is it just that our definitions of God seem to be different, or are some of my friends atheists, without knowing it? Also, what about St. John of the Cross?